Vem da je ?e ve?krat tekla debata o tem ampak a lahko nekdo kratko napi?e kak?na je povezava med udobjem in prostornino, pritiskom in premerom diz pri kroglah.
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Recimo: ali bo bolj ''trda'' bunka z ve?jo ali manj?o prostornino/ ve?jim ali manj?im pritiskom/?ir?o ali o?jo dizo.
Ob?utek imam da je avto po menjavi vseh bunk (obnovljene in ne nove) postal spredaj ogabno mehek. Pri zaviranju se postavlja na nos, ve?je neravnine slabo po?ira.
Se pravi: ?e so mi dali napa?no kuglo in je avto premehek, je le ta premajhna/premalo ali preve? nafilana/z napa?no luknjo? Ali kombinacija vsega. Vem da sta vgrajeni sprednji kugli kugli za Xantio in vrednosti P42. Activa naj bi imela pritisk 45 barov in brez dovoljenega odstopanja. Vrednosti 42 barov nikjer v tabeli nisem videl. Mehanik trdi da so kugle prave.Ni? ne more biti tako zjebano, da se ne bi dalo popravit. Razen Citroena!
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Na moji Xantii je tovarni?ka specifikacija za sprednje bunke 50 bar, s tem da je lahko do 5 bar ve? ali celih 20 bar manj. Ve?ji pritisk = mehkej?i fedr (malo nelogi?no, ampak 100% je tako) in obratno. Hidroaktiva ma spredaj bunke 45 bar. Bunk 42 bar ni. Ampak - nekaj barov razlike vsekakor ni bistveno.
?e je sprednji konec premehak, je mo?no naslednje:
- dobil si bunke z bistveni previsokim pritiskom (kar je najmanj verjetno)
- dobil si bunke od nehidroaktivne Xantie
- dobil si bunke od Hidroaktive, ki jim je nekdo (npr. Nemec) povrtal dizo
- dobil si bunke z veliko kilometrov, ki so jim o?ibele plo??ice, ki pokrivajo ostalih 8 taglavnih diz
A je na bunkah kak?na tovarni?ka oznaka, po kateri bi se dalo sklepati, da je vsaj takrat, ko je pri?la iz tovarne, bila v redu za tvoj avto. Na mojih oznake so (velike bele cifre).
Mo?no je tudi, da ti sprednji regulator trdote ne dela v redu, pa je avto v vedno v mehkem modu, pa tega prej nisi opazil, ker je bila srednja bunka od hidroaktive precej prazna. Vendar to ni preve? verjetno - ?e ne dela, je obi?ajno problem v tem da ostane v trdem modu (kaj ?e?, tako je). Pa verjetno je ?e kak?na mo?nost ....Xantia - edini po nem?ko narejeni Citroen
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Ne, avto menja moduse.
Bunke so sve?e ofarbane, skozi pa se vidi odtis P42.
Problem je v tem ker ne vem ?e je res premehak. Lahko da je bil prej pretrd. Kako pa prostornina vpliva na obna?anje?Ni? ne more biti tako zjebano, da se ne bi dalo popravit. Razen Citroena!
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Tukaj je napisana kak?na bunka za kako xantio.. Se razlikujejo med seboj tudi rec. od 1.8 nebi smelo bit enako kot za 2.0...
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) Absorption of shocks
All models 96 154 588 D 400 62 (+5; -32) No
95 451 376 U
Hydractive II & Activa 95 437 354 D 400 62 (+5; -32) No
Front suspension sphere
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
1.6i 96 169 316 D 400 70 (+5; -25) 1.65 mm
1.8i 96 194 445 U 400 70 (+5; -25)
1.9D 96 199 312 M 450 65
2.0i 96 178 589 D 400 55 (+5; -20) 1.5 mm
1.9 Turbo D 96 194 444 U 400 55 (+5; -20)
96 199 318 M 450 50
Rear suspension sphere
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
1.6i 96 169 314 D 400 40 (+5; -10) 1.1 mm
1.8i 96 194 439 U 400 40 (+5; -10)
1.9D 96 194 439 U 400 40 (+5; -10)
2.0i 96 178 590 D 400 30 (+5; -10) 1.0 mm
1.9 Turbo D 96 194 438 U 400 30 (+5; -10)
Anti-sink sphere (SC.MAC)
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 145 672 D 400 50 (+5; -20) No
96 198 613 U
Front suspension sphere, suspension with Hydractive II
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 196 312 D 400 50 (+5; -20) 0.6 mm
96 194 441 U 400 50 (+5; -20)
96 199 316 M 450 45
Rear suspension sphere, suspension with Hydractive II
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 154 593 D 400 30 (+5; -10) 0.5 mm
96 194 435 U
Hydractive II spheres
Suspensions control sphere Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Front (4) 75 520 295 U 500 70 (+5; -25) 1.1 mm
96 181 131 M 450 75
Rear (5) 96 045 530 U 400 50 (+5; -25)
Anti-sink sphere (SC.MAC), suspension with Hydractive II
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 145 672 D 400 50 (+5; -20) No
96 198 613 U
Suspension spheres, suspension with Activa (SC.CAR) system
Sylinder Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Front (2) 96 221 189 M 450 45 0.7 mm
Rear (3) 96 221 201 U 400 30 (+5; -10) 0.6 mm
Activa spheres
Suspensions control sphere Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Front (4) 96 181 131 M 450 75 1.1 mm
Rear (5) 96 221 207 U 400 55 (+5; -20)
Front SC.CAR sphere (7) 96 212 198 U 400 62 (+5; -32)
Rear SC.CAR sphere (8) 96 208 710 U 400 30 (+5; -10)
Anti-sink sphere (SC.MAC), suspension with Activa (SC.CAR) system
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar)
SC.MAC 96 208 710 U 400 30 (+5; -10)
All model and motors from year 1996
Main accumulator sphere
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) Absorption of shocks
All models 96 154 588 D 400 62 (+5; -32) No
95 451 376 U
Hydractive II & Activa 95 437 354 D 400 62 (+5; -32) No
Front suspension sphere
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 178 589 D 400 55 (+5; -20) 1.5 mm
96 194 444 U 400 55 (+5; -20)
96 199 318 M 450 50
Rear suspension sphere
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Berline 96 238 977 D 400 30 (+5; -10) 1.2 mm
96 239 023 U
Break 96 239 029 D 400 40 (+5; -10) 1.25 mm
96 239 028 U
Anti-sink sphere (SC.MAC)
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar)
All models 96 145 672 D 400 50 (+5; -20)
96 198 613 U
Front suspension sphere, suspension with Hydractive II
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 238 949 M 450 45 0.7 mm
Rear suspension sphere, suspension with Hydractive II
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Berline 96 238 951 D 400 30 (+5; -10) 0.6 mm
96 238 950 U
Break 96 239 027 D 400 40 (+5; -10) 0.8 mm
96 239 026 U
Hydractive II spheres
Suspensions control sphere Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Front (4) 96 181 131 M 450 75 1.1 mm
Rear (5) 96 045 530 U 400 50 (+5; -20)
Anti-sink sphere (SC.MAC), suspension with Hydractive II
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
All models 96 145 672 D 400 50 (+5; -20) No
96 198 613 U
Suspension spheres, suspension with Activa (SC.CAR) system
Sylinder Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Front (2) 96 221 189 M 450 45 0.7 mm
Rear (3) 96 222 870 U 400 30 (+5; -10) 0.7 mm
Activa spheres
Suspensions control sphere Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar) By-pass valve of the
sphere
Front (4) 96 181 131 M 450 75 1.1 mm
Rear (5) 96 221 207 U 400 55 (+5; -20)
Front SC.CAR sphere (7) 96 212 198 U 400 62 (+5; -32)
Rear SC.CAR sphere (8) 96 208 710 U 400 30 (+5; -10)
Anti-sink sphere (SC.MAC), suspension with Activa (SC.CAR) system
Model Type of the sphere Volume (cm3) Pressure (bar)
SC.MAC 96 145 672 D 400 50 (+5; -20)
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